3-Way Switching - ATX LED Tandem Mode
How to program multiple AL-WS-DR2 to operate dozens of LEDs in unison
This mode allows from multile AL-WS-DR2 to operate as one large switch - all attached LED will have the same brightness and color and respond in sync with any other.
Log into the ATX LED Hub, navigate to Groups, scroll to the 3-Way section, click on Create Tandem 3-Way
- select 2 or more switches that are to be merged into a tandem combo
- note: each switch will take an address in the range of 0-15. If those addresses are full - contact tech support for the manual method.
- with the switches selected, click on Save
- the addresses of the switches will be moved from their present address over to an address between 0-15
- it will be added to a group with the same value as that address ( address 13 will be assigned group 13)
- if there are 2 switches in the combo, then both will be assigned an address less than 16, will be assigned the same value as a group. For example address 14
- finally - all members of the combo will join the group assignment of the other switches.
- after this has been done - move each switch in the combo, and observe in the logs that they transmit Group ARC Level commands - not Address ARC Level. So you should see G13 and G14 level packets
Assigning Hue operations to a tandem combo
- Hide all switches in the combo from Hue by "hiding" the device in DALI Devices page
- Hide all associated Groups in the combo by 'hiding" the group in the Groups page
- In exactly one of the associated Groups - uncheck the Hide button, and give that combo a useful, short, Alexa understandable name
- delete any old Hue entries and accept the new names
- go to the Hue page to sync your settings with the Hue module
Advantages of AL-WS-DALI-8B
- No need for the AL-WS-DALI-8B address to be between 0-15 ( allows more groups per bus)
- up to 8 buttons in a single gang box ( 3 and 4 button models are especially useful)
- Lower cost per group control
This explanation is for technical background only
Examples:
a) 3 DR2 controlling 24 LEDs all operate together as one from 3 switches ( 4-Way )
b) 2 DR2 controlling 8 lights all operate together as one from 2 switches ( 3-Way )
c) 1 DR2 controlling 4 lights with remote switch ( 3-Way ) via a unrelated AL-WS-DR2
d) 1 DR2 controlling 4 lights with remote switch ( 3-Way ) via a hard wired elated AL-WS-M
Manual method to create a Tandem setup / Virtual three way
See ZWD Groups for automatic operation
- identify each DR2 by name using Dali Devices. flip the switch and observe the Green symbol in the dashboard moving, then open the drop down and give the device a name.
Note the Short Address
- change the address of the DR2 #1 to an unused address between 0 and 15
- in Advanced, scroll to change address
- enter the existing address ( like 18 ) and the new address ( like 4 ) and hit change
- do the same for each DR2 #2 and #3 etc - for example 4, 5, 6
- go to Dali Devices, go to the device with address 4, group 4 is active. Add group 5 ( and 6 if needed)
- go to the device with address 5, group 5 is active, Add group 4 ( and 6 if needed )
- go to the device with address 6 ( skip this if you only have 2 DR2 ) and add group 4 and 5
- now you can dim and control from multiple locations
- You can also use the "Virtual 3-Way feature of ZWD at the bottom of the "Groups" tab to do these steps automatically ( see topic above ).
- To use the N-Way input of an unrelated DR2, add a AL-WS-M to any DR2, and use the "2nd Short Address" feature to set the short address to be the same as the DR2 with the lights attached
- To use the hardwire N-Way - run a 18/2 pair or a CAT-5e line from the DR2 with the lights, over to the location where you want to put the AL-WS-M as a 3-way switch.
Large Rooms - Large Chandeliers - the options
# of Downlights in one area
Number of 6 Watt "Cans"
in the area
| lowest cost switch option
| DALI upgrade
| WiFi upgrade
|
1 to 4 Fixed
| AL-WS-DR1
| AL-WS-DR2
| AL-WS-DR2W
|
1 to 4 Tunable
| AL-WS-DR2C
| AL-WS-DR2 | AL-WS-DR2W |
More than 4 Tunable
|
| AL-WS-DR2 in Tandem mode
|
|
1 to 8 Fixed
| AL-WS-DR2C | AL-WS-DR2 | AL-WS-DR2W |
More than 8 Fixed
| On/Off with 48v option
( no dimming )
| AL-WS-DR2 in Tandem mode
|
|
Bulbs
Number of bulbs in a Chandelier or fixture
| lowest cost switch option
( use 48v style bulbs)
| Dimming Upgrade
| Smart upgrade
|
1 to 4 ( E26 - 6 watt)
1 to 8 ( E12 - 3 watt)
| On / Off simple switch
| AL-WS-DR1
| AL-WS-DR2 or DR2W
|
Larger Fixtures - 75 watts
| On / Off simple switch
| ELG-150-48B | SRP-2309-CCT |
Larger Fixtures - 150 watts
| On / Off simple switch
| ELG-150-48B | ELG-150-48DA |
Blue boxes are 48v type bulbs/LEDs with parallel wiring.
White boxes are 660 mA with series wiring ( preferred ), or alternatively, 48v with parallel wiring
Green boxes are 660mA for Tunable white
2nd DALI address from a N-Way switch to an unrelated DR2
Either the Main switch or the N-Way input can be given a 2nd DALI address.
To do this, set memory 0:15 to Split mode, set memory 5:30 to swap Main and N-Way if needed. Set the 2nd DALI address at address 5:29.
With this done, each press toggles On/Off, hold to dim.
Value sent to AL-WS-DR2 5:29
| Address Range
| Command Type
| Function
|
0-63
| 0-63
| Address
| send / receive On/Off/Dim
|
64-79
| 0-15
| Group
| send / receive On/Off/Dim
|
80-95
| 0-15
| Trigger
| sends a 271 command with
value = address
|
96-111
| 0-15
| On/Off
| sends a 271 command with
value = toggle action from address
|
128-191
| 0-63
| Address
| Send On/Off/Dim - no response to query
|
192-207
| 0-15
| Group
| Send On/Off/Dim - no response to query |
208-223
| 0-15
| Scene
| Send Scene recall
|
224-239
| 0-14
| Scene
| Send Scene recall with Undo
|
252
|
| Broadcast
| Send all Off
|
253
|
| Broadcast | Send all On 254
|
254
|
| Broadcast | Send Broadcast On/Off/Dim
|
255
|
|
| disabled
|
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